Wednesday, August 10, 2005

Lo and behold: what happened of that Sicho?

Dispel Fantasies comments to The Liozner Rebbe, take two post:

The Sicho on Motzet Shabbos Terumoh 5748, a short while after the passing of the Rebbetzin OBM (22 Shvat), the Rebbe said a Sicho for over a half hour (I think) and spoke about "cheshbonoy shel olom" "Shel odom" and a story by the Tzemach Tzedek about it. This pertains to an era after 3 Tammuz (when the Tzadik is nistalek) and the Rebbe was giving clear provisions and directives how to go about it.

The Rebbe said then we saw by the Previous Rabbeyim how they too did certain activities of the sort, for those who pay attention would notice how they would do activities of the sort. The Rebbe said that if and when such era comes about, they should consult and ask Chassidishe Rabbonim and speak to them, and have their opinion (all of them or the biggest of them).

He stated clearly that this is in addition to the other directives that the Rebbe gave at that time (for instance: 15 Shvat at the end of that farbregen the Rebbe was saying how a person should consult medical advice for medical issues and "yedidim mevinim", etc.). He repeated over and over, how it should not leave any sofek (doubt( than "cheshbonoy shel olom" shuld be asked by the Chassidishe Rabbonim who are well versed in Nigleh and pasken halochos based on their knowledge of it and so by their possek halocho according to their knowledge in chassidus. The Rebbe used in that occasion the expression of "Moshe Kibel ...Umessoroh Lyhoshua" and as mentioned before: he said that this is an inyan in "Hiskashrus".

Low and behold: what happened of that Sicho?

At that time it is understood that no one wanted to hear from it. I remember vividly how everyone was very "ongetzoigen" (sorry don't have the exact translation at the moment). They (including myself with everyone else) did not want to print this Sicho at the time. But unfortunately 3 Tammuz happened and you would expect that the first thing to follow the Directives is to examine and analyze *this* sicho. But instead: We have had (and have...) fights about Rebbe = Moshiach, Hiskaashrus means negating any mention about any possible authority and the rest is history...

UPDATE: The video of the Sicho:

This was said in Rebbe's house? I think I remember listening to this from 770? Could someone find or write an English synopsis for the readers?